Oh, you fucced up now!

**sensitiveguy** · 05-12-2008, 07:25 AM

May 11, 2008
AP

A white police officer was disciplined for acting "in a discourteous manner" when he confronted a black motorist who turned out to be one of the highest-ranking commanders in the New York City Police Department, an agency spokesman said Saturday.

Chief Douglas Zeigler, the head of the NYPD's Community Affairs Bureau and the highest uniformed black officer on the force, was off duty and sitting in his department-issued sport utility vehicle on a street in the borough of Queens on May 2 when two white police officers approached.

The encounter turned testy, and one of the officers tried to wrest open Zeigler's door, even after the three-star chief had identified himself, police spokesman Paul Browne said.

"He dealt with the chief in a discourteous manner, which is unacceptable," Browne said.

He did not provide details of why the officers decided to question Zeigler. The New York Daily News reported Saturday that Zeigler was parked near a fire hydrant and that one of the plainclothed officers spotted Zeigler's service weapon inside the vehicle. Browne said he could not confirm whether the officers saw a gun.

He did not specify what discipline was taken by the department. The News said the officer was stripped of his gun and badge and placed on modified duty Friday.

The incident was reported as police are being criticized for stopping and frisking record numbers of pedestrians - about 145,000 in the first quarter of this year. The majority were black or Hispanic.

Zeigler has headed the Community Affairs Bureau since January 2006. His wife, Neldra Zeigler, is the NYPD's deputy commissioner for equal employment opportunity.

The Rev. Al Sharpton, who has been leading demonstrations in the city to protest the acquittal of three police officers in the shooting death of an unarmed man as he left his bachelor party, took note of the Zeigler incident while speaking at his weekly rally in Harlem.

"You can't make this stuff up!" he said. "The problem isn't that they didn't recognize him. It is that they don't recognize our rights!"

Also, a New York man has filed a lawsuit claiming that he was taunted and falsely arrested by police officers after they learned that he had the same name as a West African immigrant shot to death by other officers in 1999.

Amadou Diallo said a group of officers confronted him over a broken headlight in February, then searched his vehicle for weapons.

Once the officers learned his name, it became "a source of much amusement, laughing and inappropriate joking amongst the officers, with crude and disgusting comments," Diallo's lawyer said in the suit.

Amadou Diallo was also the name of an unarmed immigrant killed in 1999 when four plainclothed officers, apparently mistakenly thinking he was reaching for a gun, fired 41 rounds in the doorway of a Bronx apartment building. The officers in that case were also acquitted of criminal charges.

**sensitiveguy** · 05-12-2008, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sensitiveguy

"He dealt with the chief in a discourteous manner, which is unacceptable," Browne said.

Was it "unacceptable" because he is the chief? Newsflash, this shyt is happening everyday to average black folk. LOL

**BISHOP** · 05-12-2008, 07:52 AM

And the beat goes on......

Just another high ranking Black person that got a dose of reality. He's just lucky he's alive to be pissed off about it. Look for more of this to happen as gas and everything else goes up...to blame will be Blacks and Hispanics.

**cc5k** · 05-12-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sensitiveguy

Was it "unacceptable" because he is the chief? Newsflash, this shyt is happening everyday to average black folk. LOL

I have been pulled over one time in the last 5+ years and it was for an illegal left hand turn out of a parking lot (I didn't see the sign). The cop was polite, despite writing me a ticket.

Why do you suppose I have had such "good luck" compared to the "average black folk"?

**BISHOP** · 05-12-2008, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cc5k

I have been pulled over one time in the last 5+ years and it was for an illegal left hand turn out of a parking lot (I didn't see the sign). The cop was polite, despite writing me a ticket.

Why do you suppose I have had such "good luck" compared to the "average black folk"?

cc, I bet if you looked like your boy Pac...he woulda shot your ass. I've been pulled over once in the last 10 years so I guess I'm lucky too. IMO, has more to do with the "climate" of the particular area. Like in Philly...cop gets killed...expect some civilian ass to get whooped by the police.

Even after this high ranking Black officer Identified himself the other officer basically said I DON'T GIVE A FUCC N!GGER. Bad cop...fire his ass. Won't happen. Never does.

**TUCKER** · 05-12-2008, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cc5k

I have been pulled over one time in the last 5+ years and it was for an illegal left hand turn out of a parking lot (I didn't see the sign). The cop was polite, despite writing me a ticket.

Why do you suppose I have had such "good luck" compared to the "average black folk"?

Prolly cause you're not average! (LMAO) What does the "average" Black man look like today anyway? A few years ago, some young dope boys approached the mayor in his personal vehicle and tried to sell him some crack. The mayor is 6'6" 265, hardly average. Anyway, he reported the incident to the police chief and a police presence has been maintained in that area, like never before.

Some people apparently attract the police, while others apparently attract the dope boys!

**sensitiveguy** · 05-13-2008, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cc5k

I have been pulled over one time in the last 5+ years and it was for an illegal left hand turn out of a parking lot (I didn't see the sign). The cop was polite, despite writing me a ticket.

Why do you suppose I have had such "good luck" compared to the "average black folk"?

I guess if shyt doesn’t happen to YOU then it just doesn’t happen, huh? Black folks across the country that claim police brutality are just somehow making shyt up, right? LOL

I think anytime you have a positive experience with the police you should consider yourself “lucky” cause you never know when you might cross paths with that one cop that has a wild hair up his azz. LOL

**sensitiveguy** · 05-14-2008, 06:57 AM

A few more details:

Officer Michael Granahan was stripped of his gun and badge Friday because he and his partner stopped and questioned NYPD Chief Douglas Zeigler while he was off duty and parked on a Queens street on May 2.

"They are saying this might be discrimination," Granahan's mother, Frances, said yesterday.

"Michael's girlfriend is black," she said. "We didn't raise our kids to be prejudiced. We're from the Bronx. We have every nationality around us."

The three-year veteran's motives in stopping Zeigler are being questioned by NYPD brass and drew criticism from the Rev. Al Sharpton.

After the Daily News' exclusive report yesterday detailing the incident, Sharpton said it showed how no minority members - even three-star chiefs - are immune from mistreatment.

"Whether your name is Bell or Zeigler, we have problems in this city," Sharpton said, referring to Sean Bell, who died in a hail of police bullets.

But Granahan's father, Richard, blamed Zeigler for the incident. He said the 60-year-old was in a department SUV parked at a hydrant in Corona with tinted windows rolled up and the engine off.

When Granahan and his partner ran the license plate, it was listed to a rental agency - and the plainclothes anti-crime cops approached. They had made a gun arrest in the area the week before.

"He said, 'Please roll down your windows,' and the guy mumbles something. At that point, Michael asked him to roll down all four windows completely. The driver rolled down all four slightly," the father said.

That's when Granahan's partner saw the driver fumble at his waistband and hollered, "Gun!" the father said. As Granahan grabbed the door handle, Zeigler stepped out and "smacked Michael's hand," the elder Granahan said.

"The guy says, 'Don't you know who I am?' and he starts ranting and raving. Then [Zeigler] shows him his ID."

Zeigler gave Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly a different account, saying the cops had no reason to stop him, never yelled "Gun!" and ignored his ID. He said he was in the area to drop off a package.

Zeigler also had a gun pulled on him in 2006 when a State Department agent at first didn't believe his ID at a fund-raiser at the Waldorf-Astoria hotel. Federal supervisors later apologized.

**BISHOP** · 05-14-2008, 07:38 AM

I have a problem with Granahan's father giving out information about a case under investigation. I also think that Zeigler may have been up to something. Hey, just my opinion. Had a firefighter hear shot while off duty. At first it was "OMG" then it was learned that he was there to buy some chronic. LOL Oh, and just because a white guy has a Black girlfriend doesn't mean he can't be prejudice. Means he likes that Black bootay he has but, the rest of ya'll .....

**sensitiveguy** · 05-15-2008, 06:55 AM

Sorry Bishop, but I’m more inclined to believe the chief’s account of what happened.

**cc5k** · 05-16-2008, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sensitiveguy

I guess if shyt doesn’t happen to YOU then it just doesn’t happen, huh? Black folks across the country that claim police brutality are just somehow making shyt up, right? LOL

I think anytime you have a positive experience with the police you should consider yourself “lucky” cause you never know when you might cross paths with that one cop that has a wild hair up his azz. LOL

I know it happens, but you're making it sound like black folks have a better chance of being police brutality victims than not. But that's bullshit. And it's bullshit b/c 99%+ of cops don't do that shit.

**TUCKER** · 05-16-2008, 02:28 AM

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I know it happens

Then theres hope for you yet!

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you're making it sound like black folks have a better chance of being police brutality victims than not.

Not only him, but I suppose he has the census statistics to prove it, as I do.

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But that's bullshit, b/c 99%+ of cops don't do that shit.

The one percent you allow sir must be the equivalent of more than 10,000 cops....thats a lot of bad apples to be in one barrel, wouldn't you say? The mistakes made by people in these positions can f**k up a mans life forever, or are often fatal, which kind of sort of f**ks up a mans life too. Oft times people abuse the authority they've been charged with, even some who represent the private sector.

Is that smog finally starting to take its toll? (lmao)

**sensitiveguy** · 05-16-2008, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cc5k

I know it happens, but you're making it sound like black folks have a better chance of being police brutality victims than not. But that's bullshit. And it's bullshit b/c 99%+ of cops don't do that shit.

I don’t know how often it happens because most of it falls under the radar but I believe it's more often than the mainstream media would have you to believe. I'll bet there are plenty of black folks sittin in jail right fuccn now on trumped up charges by some crooked azz cops. I'm sure groups like The Innocence Project know this story all too well.