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06-17-2008, 07:39 PM
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bizarre lighting....
in my house, when the lights go out, errybody is BLACK!!!
including my cat, mufasa, who is a black long-hair.... 
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I knew there was an excellent sense of ribald humor under all that anger! LMAO
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06-18-2008, 07:05 AM
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You have to be talking about the Black female community "You go girl"??? Not too many Black men are happy to see one get away and cheer her on. LOL Now, since you did say Memphis and you live there I'll have to take your word for it. I just can't imagine Black women seeing one of their sistas with a white guy and saying "ewwwwww she got her a white man...she so lucky....you go girl". Making it sound like the white man is the prize.
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Geographical location and class play a big role in how folks view interracial dating.
In all fairness, black men treat white women like they are the prize. LOL
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06-18-2008, 07:28 PM
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Geographical location and class play a big role in how folks view interracial dating.
In all fairness, black men treat white women like they are the prize. LOL
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Sounds like the voice of reason and common sense to me.
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06-23-2008, 01:42 PM
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The following is a response to me from my friend, some of you may've heard of her, 'PEARL JR:"
This is my overall opinion of Interracial dating.
Appropriateness is judged by the surrounding circumstances. Now, I'm an activist for the upward mobility of the Black race--that is my singular purpose as a media owner, author, and activist.
The #1 problem that plagues the Black community is the lack of providers (controls poverty) and protectors (controls crime), which is the vast responsibility of MEN.
The Black community has way too many households without fathers and husbands and to invite and have more men in the Black race family would, without a doubt, improve the status of the Black race, which will dramatically contribute to racial equality--since we live in a capitalistic society, two people working together (in any form) in any one households will improve the Black race. Black boys NEED Black men to raise them!
Black men aren't doing their jobs as a group--too much poverty and too much crime. Now, of course, there are historic and current racism and discrimination, but we have to beat that barrier down, so to be equal.
Now, since the Black man can't or won't improve his presence in the Black race family as providers and protectors and do WHATEVER it legally takes to be leaders in our community, then any type of male that will do that job is a welcome venture.
If BM don't like it, then FIND/DISCOVER/CREATE a way to do the job of providing and protecting his women, children, and community.
Currently, the Black community is operating from a 30-40 percent BM participation rate--that is a FAIL.
Now, I strongly disagree with anything that increases the already critically low rate of BM participation, so NO, I don't agree with BM with non-Black women, because these women are taking/getting/having a commodity that is crucial to the survival of the Black race.
This is especially harmful when the tiny portion of BM with money/resources/connections abandon the Black race--they are ignorant to the facts of their roles and have fallen prey to the illusion that non-Black women are better, just because. They are especially degraceful because if they married a BW, they would immediately improve the status of the Black race and would contribute to the worthiness of BW, which affects their own daughters value system.
The abandonment of the BM has gone way too far, which I believe is a racist motivation by the powers that be, to keep MEN out of the Black race, because then Blacks are always running the race with one cripple limping leg, which means we will lose most often. That is exactly what is happening.
Let's take a substantial number of prosperous WM and you'll see a wave of WW hating it, because it would then be them and their children living in poverty and crime-ridden communities.
I hope this explains it clearly. BM we need you, but you must find a way to help us, which helps yourself.
Much love for my beloved people,
Pearl Jr.
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06-23-2008, 02:12 PM
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Nice read. Can't argue too much with folks opinions.
Would a bigger question, one I have is what % are we talking about? Has interracial dating/marriage increased that much? BTW, interracial dating and interracial marriage are two different things IMO. The author mentioned "crime" and "poverty"...surely that isn't being blamed on interracial dating.
IMO, on the list of things to do.....interracial dating wouldn't make the Top 10.
BTW, the interracial couple on my street are both police officers. LOL
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06-23-2008, 04:04 PM
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what % are we talking about? Has interracial dating/marriage increased that much?
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"Currently, the Black community is operating from a 30-40 percent BM participation rate--that is a FAIL." Pearl Jr. Is this what you mean percentage wise Bishman?
"Now, I strongly disagree with anything that increases the already critically low rate of BM participation, so NO, I don't agree with BM with non-Black women, because these women are taking/getting/having a commodity that is crucial to the survival of the Black race.
This is especially harmful when the tiny portion of BM with money/resources/connections abandon the Black race--they are ignorant to the facts of their roles and have fallen prey to the illusion that non-Black women are better, just because. They are especially degraceful because if they married a BW, they would immediately improve the status of the Black race and would contribute to the worthiness of BW, which affects their own daughters value system." Pearl Jr. These are some powerful statements aren't they?
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06-24-2008, 01:34 AM
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IMO, on the list of things to do.....interracial dating wouldn't make the Top 10.
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Have you only dated black women? IMO, interracial dating is a must while you're sewing your oats.
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06-24-2008, 01:40 AM
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"Currently, the Black community is operating from a 30-40 percent BM participation rate--that is a FAIL." Pearl Jr. Is this what you mean percentage wise Bishman?
"Now, I strongly disagree with anything that increases the already critically low rate of BM participation, so NO, I don't agree with BM with non-Black women, because these women are taking/getting/having a commodity that is crucial to the survival of the Black race.
This is especially harmful when the tiny portion of BM with money/resources/connections abandon the Black race--they are ignorant to the facts of their roles and have fallen prey to the illusion that non-Black women are better, just because. They are especially degraceful because if they married a BW, they would immediately improve the status of the Black race and would contribute to the worthiness of BW, which affects their own daughters value system." Pearl Jr. These are some powerful statements aren't they?
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Powerful... yes. But Pearl sounds a little bitter to me. A Black man should not stick to Black women just b/c she's black. He should choose the woman that's best for him and for what he wants. Also, I don't buy into there being an "illusion that non-Black women are better, just because". Women of different races are sterotypically known for different things. Everyone is entitled to their own preferences for which traits they find most appealing, regardless of the race where those traits are prevalent.
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06-24-2008, 03:21 AM
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Powerful... yes. But Pearl sounds a little bitter to me. A Black man should not stick to Black women just b/c she's black.
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I think shes coming from the POV of strengthening the household and family structure. Being a minority, when those few Black males who manage to beat the odds and become "successful" decide to "fly the coop" so to speak, it weakens a race of people that, as a minority, really can't afford it. Personally I understand matters of the heart, but sometimes the heart has to suffer for the "GREATER" good. A noble gesture, true, but when centuries of barriers are broken down for the benefit of a people and those who've benefited seek immediate gratification, usually in the singular, it certainly doesn't speak well for the people.
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He should choose the woman that's best for him and for what he wants.
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This is the immediate gratification attitude I spoke of. How does a people, constantly under siege, withstand crisis' from without and within. ROME itself, arguably the greatest nation in history, was conquered from within. Had it not been for outside interference, who knows where Black american mankind would be today. When Black men wander for whatever reason, the entire infrastructure of Black society is weakened. Those of neutral identity like Tiger, Mariah, Heinz and yes Obama are not the rule, but the exception to it. Its nothing personal against anyone, but someone much wiser than my own most humble self once said "HOT WATER is good for washing, COLD WATER is good to drink, but lukewarm water will always get thrown out!
Now I'm pretty sure Pearl Jr didn't say all that, but I think that is the essence of her thought pattern.
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06-24-2008, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TUCKER
"Currently, the Black community is operating from a 30-40 percent BM participation rate--that is a FAIL." Pearl Jr. Is this what you mean percentage wise Bishman?
"Now, I strongly disagree with anything that increases the already critically low rate of BM participation, so NO, I don't agree with BM with non-Black women, because these women are taking/getting/having a commodity that is crucial to the survival of the Black race.
This is especially harmful when the tiny portion of BM with money/resources/connections abandon the Black race--they are ignorant to the facts of their roles and have fallen prey to the illusion that non-Black women are better, just because. They are especially degraceful because if they married a BW, they would immediately improve the status of the Black race and would contribute to the worthiness of BW, which affects their own daughters value system." Pearl Jr. These are some powerful statements aren't they?
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TUCKER, I took that % as being BM participation in the Black community. I meant what is the % of Black folks in "interracial marriages". Dating is just that "dating".
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06-24-2008, 06:09 AM
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Have you only dated black women? IMO, interracial dating is a must while you're sewing your oats.
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I meant "interracial dating" isn't the issue that Pearl Jr is making it out to be. I think the % of BM with other women is small. Still haven't seen any data to prove me wrong.
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06-24-2008, 10:15 PM
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I meant "interracial dating" isn't the issue that Pearl Jr is making it out to be. I think the % of BM with other women is small. Still haven't seen any data to prove me wrong.
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I'm pretty sure you're right. It's an issue a lot of black folks are pissy about, but personally, I would be perfectly fine if the % of interracial dating doubled, tripled or even quadrupled.
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06-24-2008, 11:39 PM
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